Those That Think They Are A Big Deal...
Soooo...Mr. Obama thinks there should be a gradual withdrawal from Iraq. Well isn't that special...I seem to remember some time back that he said we needed to get out of Iraq period! So, now that he is a seasoned Senator of less than 2 years...he has seen the light and we need to move gradually. Well...that's how Robert Gates feels...we just can't pull the troops out and leave...we've got to stay in there longer...yada yada yada. Seems Obama has made it into the political arena just fine.
Speaking to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, Obama sees a flexible timetable for a withdrawal linked to conditions on the ground in Iraq and based on the advice of US commanders. He also called for intensified efforts to train Iraqi security forces...and US aid packages tied to the progress in which the Iraqis reduce sectarian violence. Also new diplomacy opportunities with Iran and Syria.
"I believe that it remains possible to salvage an acceptable outcome to this long and misguided war," he said. "But I have to be honest today, it will not be easy. For the fact is that there are no good options left in this war."
Kissinger Says We Cannot Win War In Iraq...they could have paid me alot less money to tell them that. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to get the drift of that breeze...
Military victory is no longer possible in Iraq, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said in a television interview broadcast Sunday. Kissinger presented a bleak vision of Iraq, saying the U.S. government must enter into dialogue with Iraq's regional neighbors including Iran if progress is to be made in the region. And Iraq isn't ready for democracy...
And now John McCain says we need more troops in Iraq...
McCain, a front-running GOP presidential hopeful for 2008, said the U.S. must send an overwhelming number of troops to stabilize Iraq or face more attacks — in the region and possibly on American soil. Don't be so sure Johnny Boy...you haven't asked the American people what they want...Pentagon outline 3 options in Iraq...
"Go big," "go long" and "go home."
These are the three alternatives for U.S. troop levels in Iraq senior defense officials have devised, The Washington Post reported Monday.
And now...Condisleeza Rice says...The United States lacks sufficient intelligence on Iran's nuclear facilities at this time, which prevents it from initiating a military strike against them, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has told European politicians and diplomats with whom she has recently met.
Rice mentioned three reasons why the United States is currently unable to carry out a military operation against Iran: the wish to solve the crisis through peaceful means; concern that a military strike will be ineffective - that it would fail to completely destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities; and the lack of precise intelligence on the targets' locations. Are we believing this so far?
Blair ADMITS Iraq War a "disaster"...gee thanks Tony for clarifying that...
Tony Blair, the British prime minister, has admitted in an interview with Al Jazeera English that events in Iraq since the US-led invasion have been a "disaster".
But he insisted that it was right to remove Saddam Hussein, the country's former leader, from power and blamed al-Qaeda, Sunni fighters and Iran-backed forces for the ongoing violence.
For Gordon of Alternate Brain...
For Gordon of Alternate Brain...
Blair must be making a last ditch effort to save his sorry a$$ - I don't think he'll be easily forgiven.
Nice site, sumo. I stumbled upon you over at Bu$hmerica2's site.
Posted by
Gracie |
4:39 AM
It's funny that the people of Iraq don't just embrace democracy. I'm sure if the situation had been reversed and Iraq had invaded the U.S. and Canada that we would have embraced the new rule without a fight..
Posted by
Anonymous |
5:10 AM
The current situation reminds me of the scene in Jumping Jack Flash where Whoppi has her dress caught in the shredder. This mess keeps grinding along and you just know sooner or later it is going to leave us standing there with nothing but a bad attitude.
Posted by
fallenmonk |
5:45 AM
Three Stooges, and Shemp too...
Posted by
Frederick |
6:58 AM
I think they are confusing Americans with some other country. When we say stop, we mean it. A slow extended withdrawal only makes things worse. I also believe if they attack Iran, the people of this country will go enmasse and slap the $hit outta the Politicians.
Posted by
Peacechick Mary |
9:25 AM
They need to realize that many of us were saying that when the military option was just being placed on the table! It wasn't winnable then and it won't be winnable in the future! Obama, come on! don't become an insider! Think outside the goddamned box! (That goes for you McCain, and all you sycophantic insiders!
Posted by
Mark Prime (tpm/Confession Zero) |
11:50 AM
Welcome Gracie to the madness...I too think that the Blair Project is trying desperately to save his hinny.
Happy...you're so right about the ebracing thing...why don't they all just get it over with and fall all over eachother and get to know their real inner selves! I agree...if they were to come over here...I'd get down on all fours so fast it would make their heads spin with laughter...and then we'd all go to Hooters and do jello shots.
Monk...nothing but a bad attitude, I for one welcome nudity...it levels the playing field a tad...everyone has something to hide and be ashamed of...it might leave room for sober discussion as everyone looks upward.
Fred...let's not insult the 3 stooges this time...I think they've gone beyond that by now. I'm not sure what they have gone on to for that matter. Put them in a room all naked...and I think things would change.
Mary...you are sooo right there. The people with surprise them, I think we are sheeple and not capable of thinking for ourselves or knowing what is best for ourselves. The election that just got their asses handed them on a platter...will be a distant memory by now I'm sure.
TPM...more poetic fodder from them for you for sure! They are the gift that just keeps giving. You always hit the nail on the head for these guys.
Posted by
sumo |
12:17 PM
Beautifully put, my dear - and the cartoons are the perfect icing for the cake. So many people suddenly seem awash with ideas and opinions on Iraq. Funny, isn't it? Only two scant months ago these people were either silent or parroting Bush's 'stay the course' bullshit. Its all politics - all power management. Not a one of 'em gives a damn about either the Iraqis or our troops. That Halliburton sponsored Iraqi war is about right. Bottom line and profit are what this is all about - not ideals or democracy. And that bandwagon has lots of room left. I'm sure heaps more will knock others aside in an effort to hitch a ride.
Posted by
TFLS |
2:15 PM
..send an overwhelming number of troops to stabilize Iraq..
I like the gut check, "defacto partnership" noose much more. It's bloodless and guarentied to show Bush, & Son, and teh whole neocon clan exactly what they're thinking.
So, how often do you get to the Starbucks' Goldengate Bridge?
Hhmmm...
Posted by
Michael Bains |
4:22 PM
Oh! And a wonderfully gnarly Thanksgivin' to you, Sumo.
y y'all!
:)
Posted by
Michael Bains |
4:25 PM
TFLS...Obama is getting my hackles up and it ain't pretty! You are sooo right about them pushing and nudging eachother out of the way. I's a long fall down to the bottom...and most of em' ought to just get it over with.
Michael...yeah the bridge would be a good starting point...heh heh! Hey thanks about Bird Day...right back at ya!
Posted by
sumo |
5:01 PM
The American people sent the corporatocracy a message on Nov 7. They're not listening.
The corporate media tried to tell us what we were really saying, because they won't admit the truth.
A majority of American want us out now, in the meantime we're building 14 new, permanent bases in Iraq.
McCain, Obama and anyone else who thinks we should stay are positioning themselves for 2008 where they can't be labeled by the opposition as the one who made us lose in Iraq.
If the people we elect to represent our views and be our voice in our government refuse to listen, maybe it's time we started looking elsewhere.
Posted by
Lew Scannon |
6:40 PM
I guess the only plus to McCain staking out this "send in more troops" claim is that it will fail (of course) and he will have to answer for that in his run for prez in 2008... just as he will now have to have to answer to the Religious Fright (to whom he just screamed from the rooftops that he was 100% anti-choice) for saying in 2000 that if his own daughter were to become unexpectedly pregnant that any choices about ending the pregnancy would be exclusively up to her.
Posted by
Tina |
8:43 PM
Lew...I think you're right again on this one.
Tina...yeah...go figure about McCain...a genuine whore.
Posted by
sumo |
9:50 PM
Obama sounds like he's going to be a dangerous disappointment.
Posted by
PBS |
4:46 AM
"I for one welcome nudity." The trouble with that one Sumo is that it can't be a level playing field: DaracuKissinger is covered in formaldehyde and you'll need a raincoat.
Posted by
Anonymous |
10:02 AM